Like Bulls in a China Shop!
April 26th 2008 15:01
So, suddenly thousands of normally quiet Chinese students studying in Oz, get enough money to travel to Canberra, and take precious time away from their studies, and produce professionally made banners and Chinese flags, to 'cheer' on the Olympic torch. Well, they were actually there, as it turns out, to 'jeer' on the Tibetan residents of Oz, and their supporters, more than cheer anything Olympic.
Photo credit: wikipedia commons
Out numbered by thousands, the 2,000 odd Tibetan supporters, peacefully making their opinion seen, were surrounded by hundreds of Chinese supporters, all chanting and screaming at them, then attacking them with the flag poles, which incidentally made an effective weapon. Just a coincidence I suppose?
I know this sounds like it happened in China, but no, it was Oz, Canberra.
The cops intervened mainly when the TV cameras were about, and appeared to push the Tibetan side away, while allowing the hired Chinese thugs to get away with their planned and carefully orchestrated assaults.
I did miss some news reports, so I am unsure whether this was exposed on TV news casts, however, I did watch the live telecast of the flame procession thang, and the TV broadcaster made it appear that the Chinese were well behaved, while the Tibetans were acting as potential trouble makers.
However, a report in the paper yesterday made it clear there was skulduggery afoot. How come our Federal agencies didn't pick up on the.....
LARGEST ORGANIZED AND PLANNED FOREIGNER DEMONSTRATION ON AUSTRALIAN SOIL...IN OUR HISTORY?
The reports stated the police were "aware” of some intentions of protest by the Tibetans and their supporters, but apparently COMPLETELY UNAWARE, of the hundreds of buses organized by China's diplomatic core, and their agents provocateur!
Our government has said nothing in protest, done nothing (that we have been told) to reprimand the Chinese Embassy for organizing these thugs, and the usurping our hard won freedoms and the right to peacefully protest.
OUR GOVERNMENT LET THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT STAMP THEIR JACKBOOT ON OUR FACES!!!
….and we said nothing…we did nothing to prevent it…we let them get away with it…
Now before you object, to my protest here, by suggesting the Tibetans were foreigners and they were amassed and protesting, you must understand they were a coming together of disparate groups and local supporters, whereas the Chinese situation was a foreign government trying, and succeeding, to impose its will on our sovereign soil.
It was a Chinese government organized protest on HUGE proportions! I am not sure, but I do not think this has happened anywhere in the world before, at least in modern times.
Our government and its agencies let the Chinese get away with it…
Now, I wonder why that is….ummm…. …..two words….first word….iron….second word…. sounds like…whore?
My my, how utterly apt!!
Rudd unvails our new flag, for when we become a republic! Pretty RED isn't it?
Photo credit: wikipedia commons
Out numbered by thousands, the 2,000 odd Tibetan supporters, peacefully making their opinion seen, were surrounded by hundreds of Chinese supporters, all chanting and screaming at them, then attacking them with the flag poles, which incidentally made an effective weapon. Just a coincidence I suppose?
I know this sounds like it happened in China, but no, it was Oz, Canberra.
The cops intervened mainly when the TV cameras were about, and appeared to push the Tibetan side away, while allowing the hired Chinese thugs to get away with their planned and carefully orchestrated assaults.
I did miss some news reports, so I am unsure whether this was exposed on TV news casts, however, I did watch the live telecast of the flame procession thang, and the TV broadcaster made it appear that the Chinese were well behaved, while the Tibetans were acting as potential trouble makers.
However, a report in the paper yesterday made it clear there was skulduggery afoot. How come our Federal agencies didn't pick up on the.....
LARGEST ORGANIZED AND PLANNED FOREIGNER DEMONSTRATION ON AUSTRALIAN SOIL...IN OUR HISTORY?
The reports stated the police were "aware” of some intentions of protest by the Tibetans and their supporters, but apparently COMPLETELY UNAWARE, of the hundreds of buses organized by China's diplomatic core, and their agents provocateur!
Our government has said nothing in protest, done nothing (that we have been told) to reprimand the Chinese Embassy for organizing these thugs, and the usurping our hard won freedoms and the right to peacefully protest.
OUR GOVERNMENT LET THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT STAMP THEIR JACKBOOT ON OUR FACES!!!
….and we said nothing…we did nothing to prevent it…we let them get away with it…
Now before you object, to my protest here, by suggesting the Tibetans were foreigners and they were amassed and protesting, you must understand they were a coming together of disparate groups and local supporters, whereas the Chinese situation was a foreign government trying, and succeeding, to impose its will on our sovereign soil.
It was a Chinese government organized protest on HUGE proportions! I am not sure, but I do not think this has happened anywhere in the world before, at least in modern times.
Our government and its agencies let the Chinese get away with it…
Now, I wonder why that is….ummm…. …..two words….first word….iron….second word…. sounds like…whore?
My my, how utterly apt!!
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Comment by katyzzz
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The Olympics have just become a giant money making competition and high ideals if any ideals at all are thrown away with the longest javelin.
It just makes me feel sad as I feel these things will never end.
I cannot understand how Tibet ever came to be considered Chinese, I am too ignorant and ill informed but do not wish to spend the time becoming an expert and many experts in many things would lead us all off blindly in the wrong direction.
Well written with admirable restraint.
I don't like getting into such issues as you know. That does not mean I am unsympathetic. One can't help wondering what will happen to Tibet after the Olympics end and all the hype quietens down.
Comment by Damo
What you have written has some merit and some anecdotal evidence to support.
Some of the media were reporting that the Chinese embassy had chartered many of the busses.
However in situations like this I prefer to very careful about what can be proven rather than what I emphatically believe.
Demonstrations of foreigners does not explicitly prove foreign orchestration. It may be true but without explicit proof any government complaint with play directly into the hands of the Chinese propaganda machine.
Comment by Mountain Fog
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thanks for the compliment and restrained criticism..hehe!
It is a worry, and even mor eos, if we as a nation do not stand up and be counted, by reasserting our independance and right to free expression, even if that means criticising a big trade partner.
Rudd did bring up the Tibet thang, albeit in a softly softly way during his China visit, and that was greeted with a strident rebuttal, but less violently than the Cnaberra incidents!
cheers
fog
Comment by Mountain Fog
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of course, you are right to take that cautious stance. I just let fly, as on the balance of probablities, it stank of a highly manipulated and planned assault, and I didn't want to wait for the details...bad me...
however, the young today, and some older people forget that Communist regimes have lots of 'cultural liaison' officers in foreign countries...only to assist their students and trade reps. of course..... (we also)
I remember, years ago, when a student at an 'august' theatrical school, having to meet members of the USSR diplomatic service, and their 'friends'....all to get a recording of trioka bells for a stage show....I should write about that one day, it was bizarre, and a little scary too, as I came up against locals, who were either sleepers, or possibly double agents, and the KGB!
cheers
fog
Comment by tlcorbin
Nice flag, very colorful.
Raven
Comment by vennia
I am a Chinese student.And I've never been to Australia.
I don't know how much do you know China and Chinese.But I do see you call those Chinese student "thugs ",right?
Let me tell you this:Tibet became a part of China since 1279.China consists of 55 national minority and Chinese government do a great job to them,including the Tibetan.It's Tibetan who launch such a riot,wanting to be "independent".They catch us off guard,in 2008,when China faces lots of challenge.
Our government put hundreds billion to build Tibet this nearly 60 years,since the new China government set up.You people must be puzzled by the fake news made by CNN & BBC.You don't know what Tibetan did in China.And I believe the Chinese student were just wanna show their anger and their patriotism.Maybe they went to an extreme,but we want you people know that Chinese are strong and never easy to be beaten!What I am saying here may not change your opinion about our people and our country,but please don’t make a comment when you even don’t know the truth!
I love my country!!
Comment by Mountain Fog
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Well I think that is a very clever and humorous name, especially for a government agent!
Anyway, isn't it lovely to be able to freely express yourself here? And without government censorship or fear of police repercussions too!!!
So WELCOME to our little FREE ORBLE-WORLD!
Now, to answer your response to my post in some detail:
I do, and will always, criticise ANY government, whether it be Communist, Democratic, Socialist Capitalist, or a dictatorship, and their government agencies, if and when they restrict human rights and freedom of expression, such as; the right to individual religious expression, whether that be Buddhism, Catholicism, Judaism, or, however the individual wishes to express "God" as they see it.
I see you acknowledge some students may have gone too far in the violence committed against peaceful Tibetan demonstrators in Canberra....
I ask you, had this demonstration happened in say...TIANANMEN SQUARE... how do you think the Chinese government would have dealt with the Tibetan demonstrators...maybe like the way they did the Chinese students that protested for democracy in Tiananmen Square years ago???
Maybe you are too young to know, but, to fill you in on the facts, because I know the Chinese Government has not, the students were peacefully protesting, pleading with the government to become democratic.
The Square was sealed off by the military, and the tanks went in...
Some students who escaped told of seeing students stuck on the tank tracks, as they ran over the top of groups of them.
Many saw the hail of bullets shower the crowds, killing many.
That is how China handles dissent and protest.
WE DO NOT!!
I noticed you joined on 28th April. Interesting timing...
Tell the government agents that are advising you all, on how to diffuse public criticism through seemingly normal social interaction, this attempt is NOT WORKING!
I respect the right of anyone to protest peacefully, and the right for you to express yourself here, I just do not have to agree with it.
However, the government of China does not...
I am very fond of the Chinese people myself, having had lots of friends of that heritage, and I have incredible respect for the historical culture of China, whose inventions and discoveries made the Western world far more liveable and civilised.
The West owes China a great deal in this respect.
However, your assertion that China's government has respected the Tibetan culture and its people is a bold faced lie!
The culture of the Tibetan people is being slowly erased as I type these words. The sign language in Tibet has been replaced with Chinese language signage. The trains bring in thousands of Han Chinese each month, who are given preference and assistance in setting up places of work and sale of goods, pushing the Tibetans out.
The oppression of the Tibetan people and its culture has been WELL DOCUMENTED!!!
You are nothing but a pathetic apologist for a regime that has murdered millions of people since Mao took control, and instigated the infamous "Cultural Revolution".
I bet that is another part of your country history that you know nothing about, but, that is not your fault, for all you know is what the government of China wants you to know.
That is the difference between our systems of government, yours suppresses truth and dissent. The beauty of our system is, when we have corruption and things are done badly, or wrong, by our governments, we can research the truth, and publicly criticize them and get a legal and just result, you cannot.
You might be a lovely person, and I am not trying to be personal here, for I love all Asian people and their various cultures, however, you are either, at best, naive and misguided about your country history and the way it treats people, or you are an agent provocateur.
cheers
fog
Comment by Mountain Fog
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yes, China is a great and ancient civilisation, that the communism rule there, has degraded life into something beastly.
It is such a pity, for the ordinary people of China are incredible in their resourcefulness and creativity.
It is a pity the Communist government cannot understand that their society would not collapse if they allowed democracy, it would only make the country grow so much stronger.
cheers
fog
Comment by Michaelie
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I don't think you were bull-like in your response - informed and articulate as always!
Very interesting.
Michaelie
Comment by Mountain Fog
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yes, a confidente here agrees with you, to a large extent, but, also, I was told there has been evidence that a similar "surge", as we saw in Canberra, is now happening in cyberspace...shudder..
cheers
fog