Obama Assassination Plot
August 26th 2008 08:49
I have been waiting, fearing, that this would happen. The extreme right wing must now be very worried, because a plot to bump off USA presidential candidate, Barak Obama, has been discovered. I guess the guys who were behind the murders of JFK, Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King and possibly Malcom X, were not behind this attempt on Obama? I know, I am a cynic, but there is a lot of evidence floating around suggesting a different scenario than we were told about their assassinations.
Had the same group been behind this assassination plot on Obama, we would be reading about Obama's sad demise, while watching some hapless schumck being dragged before the cameras, as the sole culprit(s), before he/she gets whacked by an old Mafioso, or just gaoled in isolation till their death.
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Source: Times Online:
US police are investigating whether they have foiled an assassination plot against Barack Obama after four people were arrested near the Democratic convention in Denver in the possession of high powered rifles.
One of the suspects told police that they were "going to shoot Obama from a high vantage point using a ... rifle ... sighted at 750 yards," Denver television station CDS4 is reporting. Police have told the television station that one of the suspects "was directly asked if they had come to Denver to kill Obama. He responded in the affirmative."
The suspects were arrested on Sunday when local police arrested a man, identified by the television station as Tharin Gartrell, 28, who was driving a rented pickup truck erratically. CDS4 is reprrting that in his truck police found two high powered rifles with telescopic sites, as well as camouflage clothing, walkie-talkies, a bulletproof vest, a high powered spotting scope, licences in the names of various people, and the drug methamphetamine. One of the rifles is listed as stolen from Kansas.
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Story courtesy of Times Online: see whole story here;
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The description of the "erratic driving", that brought police patrol attention to the moron in the truck with the guns, did make me think of the guy who tried to shoot Robert Kennedy, Sirhan Sirhan, who gave the appearance of being under hypnotic suggestion, (his shrink worked for the CIA, in their psy-ops area, just co-incidentally, of course!)
And I discovered recently, photos revealed Robert Kennedy had been shot from behind, point blank, whereas Sirhan SIrhan shot from the front, some six feet away, aimlessly, in some sort of delirium according to witnesses, forensic photos showed bullet holes in the kitchen far wall and door area.
See my post on Robert Kennedy assassination here: LINK
These bullet holes mysteriously disappeared a bit later on, but the forensic photographic evidence did not, it shows the bullet holes, but was never tended in evidence in the courtcase. Just like the mountain of evidence not allowed or ignored in the JFK killling, which would have proved multiple gunmen firing from three different positions and heights.
Wonder what the future holds.... cross your fingers Obama makes it into office, but for how long, if he stops big corporate from feeding at the arms supplier's government trough?
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This United States Congress image is in the public domain. This may be because it is an official Congressional portrait, because it was taken by an official employee of the Congress, or because it has been released into the public domain and posted on the official websites of a member of Congress. As a work of the U.S. federal government, the image is in the public domain.
Had the same group been behind this assassination plot on Obama, we would be reading about Obama's sad demise, while watching some hapless schumck being dragged before the cameras, as the sole culprit(s), before he/she gets whacked by an old Mafioso, or just gaoled in isolation till their death.
QUOTE:
Source: Times Online:
US police are investigating whether they have foiled an assassination plot against Barack Obama after four people were arrested near the Democratic convention in Denver in the possession of high powered rifles.
One of the suspects told police that they were "going to shoot Obama from a high vantage point using a ... rifle ... sighted at 750 yards," Denver television station CDS4 is reporting. Police have told the television station that one of the suspects "was directly asked if they had come to Denver to kill Obama. He responded in the affirmative."
The suspects were arrested on Sunday when local police arrested a man, identified by the television station as Tharin Gartrell, 28, who was driving a rented pickup truck erratically. CDS4 is reprrting that in his truck police found two high powered rifles with telescopic sites, as well as camouflage clothing, walkie-talkies, a bulletproof vest, a high powered spotting scope, licences in the names of various people, and the drug methamphetamine. One of the rifles is listed as stolen from Kansas.
UNQUOTE
Story courtesy of Times Online: see whole story here;
LINK
The description of the "erratic driving", that brought police patrol attention to the moron in the truck with the guns, did make me think of the guy who tried to shoot Robert Kennedy, Sirhan Sirhan, who gave the appearance of being under hypnotic suggestion, (his shrink worked for the CIA, in their psy-ops area, just co-incidentally, of course!)
And I discovered recently, photos revealed Robert Kennedy had been shot from behind, point blank, whereas Sirhan SIrhan shot from the front, some six feet away, aimlessly, in some sort of delirium according to witnesses, forensic photos showed bullet holes in the kitchen far wall and door area.
See my post on Robert Kennedy assassination here: LINK
These bullet holes mysteriously disappeared a bit later on, but the forensic photographic evidence did not, it shows the bullet holes, but was never tended in evidence in the courtcase. Just like the mountain of evidence not allowed or ignored in the JFK killling, which would have proved multiple gunmen firing from three different positions and heights.
Wonder what the future holds.... cross your fingers Obama makes it into office, but for how long, if he stops big corporate from feeding at the arms supplier's government trough?
PHOTO CREDIT:
This United States Congress image is in the public domain. This may be because it is an official Congressional portrait, because it was taken by an official employee of the Congress, or because it has been released into the public domain and posted on the official websites of a member of Congress. As a work of the U.S. federal government, the image is in the public domain.
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Comment by Krystal
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Comment by Mountain Fog
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Very honest assassins, one would have to admit!
I have drawn, admittedly, a very long bow, between such events in the past, and what has transpired today, for a lot more information needs to come out regarding the recent events before we know what has really gone on.
However, there is much history of government conspiracies in American political life.
Just for the record, when there is actual evidence, (photographic, eyewitness and physical), that has been ignored by the official investigation, yet it contradicts the official description of events, then you have a consiracy, not a consiracy theory!
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Reports about these events are now saying they are not sure if these people, three men and one woman are related to the one plot, or if there si a plot.
Gets weirder all the time, but, if I were Obama, I'd be taking out life insurance, unless, of course, Obama intends to allow all the big arms producers to continue to sell their wares, for upcoming and planned theatres of war...
time will tell...
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Comment by Bill Green
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And in his book The Story of Hypnosis (Hidden Depths) Robin Waterfield taunts the conspiracists by saying there should be a conspiracy theory around David Ferrie, CIA hypnotist who hypnotised Oswald when he returned from Russia. He laughs at the thought of Ferrie hypnotising Oswald to shoot Kennedy. What he didn't know when he wrote his book was that Ferrie flew into Dallas the night before the assassination.
Personally, I don't think Oswald shot Kennedy, he was just there as part of the protective contingent but was also set-up to take the fall.
Comment by Mountain Fog
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no, I am not surprised either, sad as that realization is.
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I think the good ole US of A has always tried to look democratic, but, in essence it seems to me to fit a model more akin to an economic totalitarian society, if one considers the tyranny of money and how it affects the social and political ethics, especialyy when the gap betweeb the 'haves' against the 'have nots' is widening, I do not dismiss Australia, or Britain, from this 'new world order' nonsense either.
As for that infor on David Ferrie, very interesting, I had not heard of that before, the info on Sirhan SIrhan is very disconcerting, albeit inconclusive, however, it takes not a giant mind to see very powerful organizations and politicians were invovled in these assassinations.
There is a brilliant doco on JFK, I used to be able to get it at the local video library, but it has disappeared and there is now no record of it being on their lists, which is curious.
However, it interviewed two professional assassins, one French in gaol in USA, the other in secrt in South America.
They both said it was three exeperts, and the one who had the front on shot, (Grassy Knoll position), used an exploding bullet, which explains the head injury.
A lot more besides that too, like the gun Oswald had was inaccurate in sights, the best Army marksmen couldn't hit the sandbag target with it, but these results, although publicly known, were not allowed into the Warren Commission report.
We live in rather disconcerting times...
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Comment by Bill Green
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Hi Fog, the Kennedy assassination is an obsession of mine. I was part of the writing team at GTV 9 when the murder was first reported. I noticed how the stories changed so quickly. UPI had the first story on the directions of the firing, the knoll and the overpass. No I won't go further into detail here but for a moment I was pulled up by Kissinger ridiculing conspiracy theories when, i in his own words, he's been right in there all his life.
I went after those behind the assassination. Sixty odd witnesses to events mysteriously died so I was bereft of witnesses. The London Times did the math. They said the odds for so many witnesses dying was three trillion to one.
My suspect was Onassis. He was sleeping with Jackie before Dallas and hated the Kennedys. He felt Joe informed on him for fraud (over a Liberty ship deal) and he was briefly jailed. Then the Kennedys wouldn't let him invest or even visit America. Joe reported him to UK and US government for selling cargo ships to Japan before the war. After he tried to steal Gloria Swanson from Joe the ante was upped.
At the time of the assassination he was banned from America. Time for a Greek revenge: kill the husband and score the wife.
So Ari had all the motives AND the capacity to carry it out. He gave Hoover transcripts from the recordings in the celebrity cabins and they attended drag parties. They were close and Ari hired two former FBI and CIA agents who were close to Hoover. The most senior was Iron Bob Maheu. He also ran Oswald out of the CIA's New Orleans office. Ari hired Iron Bob after the man had prevented him from transporting all the oil from the Middle East. On questioning Iron Bob on how much he was paid to squash the deal, Iron Bob said, $60,000. Ari screamed with laughter at the thought of the puerile amount to have him lose hundreds of millions. Hoover by the way hated Jack because Jack was going to sack him. Just prior to the assassination he had sacked the head of the CIA.
Ari was frantic that Jackie was going to Dallas with Jack. He tried everything to prevent her going. However as he was still going to marry her sister there was confusion and she went. It was when she woke to his having exposed her to close death that she turned on him, as well as murdered her husband that she turned on him. Cleaning Up received rave reviews but no coverage of the two themes that ran through the book. Should add that Nemesis by investigative reporter, and scrupulous recorder of facts, Peter Evans (2004) named Onassis as the man behind Robert Kennedy's murder.
Anyway the whole plot was outlined in Cleaning Up (Sceptre 93).
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that is amazing, that you were a journo and actually tried to get to the truth of the matter regarding JFK!
Good on you!!
But, it is also depressing that journos were trying to expose the truth, but never got there.
One has to have an independant judiciary, bi-partisan political support and honest, truth seeking, press and government agencies in order to establish the truth of anything, otherwise class A evidence (proving the offical explanation is wrong) gets relegated to the 'spooky conspiracy theory' files!
Why are so many people in the world uncritical thinkers? The majority seem all too prepared to believe the nonsense that is put before them, by authority figures. They seem incapable to contemplate a little more, regarding the science/physics and general plausability of official evidence/explanation.
It is like they are brainwashed, or is it just a result of emotional overload, due to the pressures of living? They seem subconsciously needing to live unconfrontationally, somehow cosseted by the feeling they are safe, if they do not challenge?
To mischievously quote a Jack Nicholson movie character, maybe they, "..can't handle the truth!"
One just has to look at the 911 events to see how well the top level media (owners and managing editors etc) and government work together today, hand in hand, they obfuscate truth, but for what purpose?
Some ideal higher than democratic rights and truth? Obviously not! They are mere pathetic pawns and psychopaths being led by the nose, all for smell of money and power.
By the way Bill, I never knew of the Onassis aspect of JFK and Robert Kennedy! That is very interesting, the doco I referred to does not entertain who was behind JFK's assassination, but just opens up the mountain of evidence that points to a well organized high level (and successful) consiracy to murder. (The doco maker had a pal sympathetic to his cause, in the State Department, which is how he got onto the professional assassins etc).
I will never forget the moment some old bloke, who allowed some film he had of the day in Dallas, to be blown up and digitally enhanced. His photo was of the Grassy knoll, as the motorcade passed, and there standing behind the fence under the tree, was a policeman, the badge and buttons glaring out.
Another witness in a building above and behind the grassy knoll, saw a policeman quickly stride out from the knoll, toss a rifle to a man in a hard hat, who immediately dismantled the rifle and placed it into a large tool box, then walked away. The 'cop' hung around awhile, and others who ran to the fnece were told to move on by him. One was soldier recently returned form live firing trianing in the army, he remembered the whizzing noise a bullet makes going by his ear, he hit the ground instinctively.
These two kept their mouths shut about the events, and film, until this doco managed to uncover them 30 odd years later, probably just as well, going by the fatality statistics of eye witnesses!
The guy that handed over the film, when shown what they discovered after blowing up a still, stated that, had he known what was there, he would never have spoken to the doco maker!
The hitman, who they interviewed in South America, said one cannot understand the injuries in the Presidential car, and the miss-hit on a cement gutter, unless you realize there were three gunmen, grassy knoll, another in the building at the corner of the turn looking up the street and about two floors up, and the other at the side of the road, again in a building, about level with the heads of the car occupants. (I think I remembered that right...?)
How come a well made doco as this can be made, totally challenging the bullshit that Oswald acted alone, (and the "majic bullet" etc and in fact it is obvious Oswald did nothing at all), yet the media still maintains, even today, the official Warren Commission story?
That fact scares me as much, if not a lot more, than the original conspiracy.
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yes it is scary!
But do not let that close your open mind, keep reading widely, do not blindly accept what the media states as truth, keep quietly challenging, keep exercising the ideals of democracy, even if it is only within your own head, then you can lead by example, by your good, moral decisions and actions in life!
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Comment by KylieW
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Long time no read. Ohhhh.....some truly fascinating reading there. Scary too.
Good to see you again!
Kylie
Comment by Bill Green
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But every piece of evidence that there was more than one shooter was crawled over by either the CIA or the FBI, and, as you've probably read, those witnesses probably lived because they swore to the stories they were presented with by those agencies.
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Yes scary, and yet, we can look at docos that show the holes in the official investigations, see first class evidence, and yet, nothing happens!
George Orwell was on the right track about many things in our world, I wonder what he would have to say had he lived till today?
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very interesting! I remember, at the time, when it happened, the shock of everyone in the street, I was only seven at the time, but it was such a huge event, everyone alive at that time would remember it well.
I also remember, not sure when it came out, the details of the US Army marksmen failing to hit the moving target with Oswald's rifle, it being an Italian one I think, not noted for its accuracy, and how they couldn't hit the moving target, even when slowed, and could not get all the shots off in time anyway...
If I find the name of that doco, I 'll let you know, I used to have a copy, but since lost it.
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Comment by Morgan Bell
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thanks for the inspiration!
hey where have you been lately?
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nice to
see youagain... well, nice to type you again maybe more appropriate!I've been here, not doing many posts, not getting much attention either, my one and only big hitter post, about the marathon woman pissing in the gutter infront of everyone, got Anne Tootil off side with me, and the next day I looked at it and agreed, it was rather tasteless, but, earned over half what I got for a full year in one post!
I just don't want to attract that kind of reader however.
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